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		<title>What Youth Ministry Isn&#8217;t</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[We look down upon our youth. We keep from teaching them any sound theology and we are obsessed with making things &#8220;relevant&#8221; to them. Relevant basically means, &#8220;Don&#8217;t have sex, don&#8217;t smoke, and don&#8217;t do drugs&#8230; but if you have to do one of those things then smoke.&#8221; And this is what we hand them, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We look down upon our youth. We keep from teaching them any sound theology and we are obsessed with making things &#8220;relevant&#8221; to them. Relevant basically means, &#8220;Don&#8217;t have sex, don&#8217;t smoke, and don&#8217;t do drugs&#8230; but if you have to do one of those things then smoke.&#8221; And this is what we hand them, the most doctrinal truth we give is some distorted view of God&#8217;s love or some story about Moses or David that they have heard for years. I kid you not, I once had to go over curriculum with High Schoolers and the questions were &#8220;What do you feel Jesus&#8217; view on drugs is?&#8221; and &#8220;Do you think Jesus would go to parties?&#8221; <span id="more-114"></span>On one hand we look down upon our kids as if they are not able to handle any sort of deep thought, and on the other we are so worried that they may become one of the &#8220;bad kids&#8221; that that is all we ever talk to them about, and thus that is all they think Christianity is. Here are some examples of things churches look for from youth pastors, which means what they view youth ministry as, and I didn&#8217;t make these up either, these are from job postings&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>if you find yourself at home in a downtown music venue as you do within the margins of a City, if you are fluent in the indie music scene, resist eating at big box establishments, exegete the arts to find Life, then we might want to talk. </em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, indie music&#8230; not eating at Mickey D&#8217;s&#8230; hip venues&#8230;. yep that sounds exactly how I would describe what is needed for ministry. If you didn&#8217;t catch the sarcasm in the previous statement then let me just tell you that this sort of garbage has more to do with pushing the &#8220;Christianity is cool&#8221; idea than anything else. You can love indie music, and be a frickin&#8217; vegan, those are fine for life choices, but that has nothing to do with being a pastor. How about instead of looking for someone who is just going to be trendy, we look for someone who is going to steep himself into the word and is going to guide our children into the truth like he should. Someone who realizes that parents are not antithetical to youth ministry and that you are not going to do anything by being a big kid that never grew up so he can fit in. It gets better&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;[our Church] <em>is well aware of the countless excuses lurking around present-day teenagers, and our leadership team is committed to providing the solution &#8211; excitement.</em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Excitement? Really, that&#8217;s your solution&#8230; excitement? If I sound dumbfounded it&#8217;s because I am, however I really shouldn&#8217;t be as this is honestly what most church&#8217;s philosophy of youth ministry is, they just don&#8217;t encapsulate it so blatantly. Our solution isn&#8217;t Christ, Biblical teachings, doctrine, or Christian community, just something exciting; which is a battle the church will always loose. Let&#8217;s see, the world has sex, drugs, sex, alcohol, sex, parties, and did I mention sex. What excitement can we offer? Bible study and late night Volley Ball, ooo color me excited! We are so scared that our kids will go be bad that we will do anything to stop them from doing so, and unfortunately our strategy is to just distract them from sin long enough before they can get married. None of this changes lives. The way of Christ can be earthy and messy, but it is the only way. Sure we can have large crowds by having Xbox parties, and while I am not against fun, it isn&#8217;t going to change lives if that is all we have.</p>
<p>These examples arn&#8217;t even the worst ones I have seen. We need to realize that these people are on the verge of being adults, heck in another time or culture they would be adults. But in our youth obsessed culture we expect people to be kids until after they finished college, if then. We need to instill into them what Christianity really is and none of it is about excitement, being cool or even being happy, it&#8217;s about sacrifice to Christ, and if we don&#8217;t sacrifice, then we are not Christians. (Matthew 10:37-39) There are kids out there that are hungry for that message, they have been getting milk their whole life and now they need something more. It won&#8217;t bring large crowds, it never has, but biblical truth is what people of all ages need. In the end, if a youth ministry isn&#8217;t about discipleship, then it isn&#8217;t a ministry at all.</p>
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		<title>14 Faults of the Church Relating to Ministry</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Something is wrong with the church in America. We stifle those who want to serve God and Pastors try to conform people to their own agenda. We have become a business, and those same skills we look for in the business world we look for in our Ministers. The following list is a tirade that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something is wrong with the church in America. We stifle those who want to serve God and Pastors try to conform people to their own agenda. We have become a business, and those same skills we look for in the business world we look for in our Ministers. The following list is a tirade that I wrote at 1:00 in the morning about the idiotic ways the church looks for pastoral positions or volunteer ministry and seems oblivious about.<span id="more-34"></span></p>
<p>1. We have given up passion for &#8220;mission statements.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. We have traded in our calling for the discipleship of all people for &#8220;specialized ministry experience.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. We have given up the biblical qualifications of a bishop and traded it in for a Master&#8217;s degree.</p>
<p>4. We deride postmodernism as an invention of Satan and act as if Modernism was invented by Jesus.</p>
<p>5. We have no concept of promoting the varieties of gifts that we are given &#8220;for the common good.&#8221; (1 Cor 12:7) and instead only care about placing people into vacancies of our formulaic, uninspired &#8220;ministries&#8221;</p>
<p>6. We have Pastors and Elders that are disassociated from their own community of believers.</p>
<p>7. We desire candidates with 10 years of ministry experience, and an M.Div. and then want to pay him $20,000 a year.</p>
<p>8. We pass up those that want to serve because they do not have &#8220;full time staff&#8221; experience even though they have served in the church all their life.</p>
<p>10. We expect youth pastors to be cool, hip and relevant, but not so much that lives are actually changed apart from what the modernist elders want.</p>
<p>11. We say if you are young then you have to be a youth pastor, even though God has given different gifts to various people.</p>
<p>12. Those who wish to be youth pastors we then look down upon as immature and not as sophisticated as a &#8220;real pastor&#8221; even though that may be his gifting. I suppose we expect the least experienced person to teach our children.</p>
<p>13. The fact that we have any &#8220;entry level position&#8221; in a church.</p>
<p>14. The fact that we &#8220;hire&#8221; people as &#8220;employees&#8221; to service us instead of true pastors who are called of God to minister to the people of God.</p>
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